Friday, October 27, 2006

My Orthodoxy

Just in case you wondered.

I am no heretic. Monophytes says that christ one person, one nature. Jesus was one person with two natures. It was a bad question. I am certainly not leaning that direction. Here is the quiz: "Are You A Heretic?"

Chalcedon compliant

100%

Apollanarian

0%

Nestorianism

0%

Monophysitism

33%

Docetism

0%

Arianism

0%

Monarchianism

0%

Adoptionist

0%

Donatism

0%

Gnosticism

0%

Socinianism

0%

Albigensianism

0%

Modalism

0%

Pelagianism

0%



6 comments:

Sophia Sadek said...

My condolences. Not to worry, though. You'll get there some day. Have faith.

Dave said...

Here is a list of what each one actually is.

Apollanarian- Christ's divine nature overwrites his human nature. He essentially becomes only divine with this definition.

Nestorianism- Jesus is composed of both a human person and a divine person. Each one has its own nature. This easily leads the way to other heresies that seperate him from being one person.

Monophysitism- This says that Jesus has one composite nature. It does not say that Jesus is Both 100%man and 100%God. According to the Aristolian idea of substance. He would be neither a man or God but somewhere in between. Like a Mule is neither a horse or donkey.

Docetism- Christ only seemed to have a real body but was really a spirit.

Arianism- Jesus is a created being. Thus the Trinity is not eternal but only the substance of God is. Jesus is not eternally begotten but begotten when God took on flesh. Jesus is thus inferior and subserviant to God, the Father for His existence.

Monarchianism- (modalism) God is one person. The Holy spirit, and Jesus, and the father are modes/forms of existance for God. The separate persons of each is confused. It is not One God-three persons but rather One God one person. The distinctions did not interelate to each other in any fashion but they were God acting in different ways. The position arose out of a stoic world view.

Adoptionism- Jesus was born human and became divine at baptism. Thus he was adopted as God.

Donatism- This says that Baptism, Communion, and church ordinancies cannot be preformed by priests who are not repentant. They also said that repentance was not enough for someone to return into full membership if they had been excommunicated.

Gnosticism- Where do I start. Matter bad. Salvation achieved by special knowledge gained by meditation. Believed that man was inherently good. Believed that interacting with beings on a higher plan of existance helped them. Believed God of OT was evil. Believed in an ongoing battle of God and evil separated across 7 planes of existance.

Socinianism- God is not omniscient. Rejected the trinity. Denies the union of Christ's two natures in a single person. Christ not divine. It is a Precursor group to the Unitarians.

Albigensiansism- Essentially a Gnostic religion. It is particular to southern frace. They practiced suicide.

Modalism- Like Monarchianism but it establishes its doctrine by positioning the unity of God beyond that revealed distinctions.

Pelagianism- Works based. Jesus only showed us the way. He was also ressurected due to his obedience.

Jonathan Oldacre said...

dave,

I took the test and it said I was Chalcedon compliant-100% but also I think nearly 100% Monophysitism as well! I think the questions regarding the nature of Christ are a little tricky. I would wholeheartedly affirm the 100% God 100% man distinction for Christ, but I definitely NOT affirm that Jesus is somewhere in the middle (a 50/50 composite).

paul steele said...

I was 100% compliant, but I noticed I hit 33% on several others. I think some of them were modalism, monarchism, and nestorianism

Dave said...
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Dave said...

It is ok to have 33% of a few of them. I did the first time or so. Some heresies are self contradictory with the real position being sandwiched in between. The difficulty with the questions is that they rely on a moderate understanding of the Aristolian philosophy of Substance/nature/person. For this reason I posted a list of what the heresies say.

Monarchism, I only posted half of it. I looked into it further to be more clear. It is hard to pin down. There are two forms. Dynamic Monarchism and Modalistic. They also can overlap. Dynamic is the primary one that is asked about in the questions.

It says that Jesus was indwelt by God in a special way. Furthermore, it says God indwells everyone. Jesus in this scheme is not divine by nature. This divinity is only communicated/projected unto Him. As you can see it worked out; It is by the Father alone that the Son and Holy spirit are divine. For this reason, it is modalistic.

Furthermore, don't confuse this heretical doctrine of communication of substance to the doctrine about the communicated attributes / positions in the Godhead. It is by this doctrine that we can say that the Holy Spirit procedes from the Father and the Son. (but never in substance or nature.) It is by this that we can call one Person of the Trinity, Father and another Son.

We do not say that the Holy Spirit is only divine because of actions the Father and the Son in communicating to it divinity. Again the heresy would say that the Son is divine because of the Father communicating to him the divine nature.